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About a little over two years ago I starting writing this ridiculously long FH5 wishlist showcasing everything I wanted to see. Now that the game's been out for a good long while, I managed to dig this up and might as well release it to you guys now that we mostly know what what's happening in the new title. Anything below this point is the post.

Well, here it is. It's done. My entire list of things I want in Forza Horizon 5. This ranges from gameplay mechanics and quality-of-life changes, to future barn finds and music. I've been working really hard on this since November, so if you have a grievance with a certain feature please be sure to explain why.

LOCATION---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Horizon 5 absolutely needs to be set in Japan. It's required, nobody should abject this.
2. The mysterious, iconic, hidden "Unrecoverable Supra" can be found as a Beauty Spot.
3. Now that Toyota's back, can we have the 2020 Supra as the cover car?

THE HORIZON FESTIVAL---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Go back to the game's roots festival-wise. Have lots of emphasis on music and live performances. This being stated, disable the feature seen in 3&4 where you can change music on the fly at the Festival Site.
2. Legitimate Festival T-Shirts. The first shirt you unlock in Horizon 4 is a festival shirt, but it's incredibly generic. The starter shirt in Horizon 5 should say "HORIZON FESTIVAL 2021" on the front and on the back have a lineup of all the bands and artists whose music is going to appear in the game. You know, like actual music festival shirts??
3. Actually have the bands performing on stage. Music is emitted from the stage, but no one is there, or if there is, it's a generic NPC. Have the actual band members performing the songs onstage. I know the expensive long process of getting a real person in a game, but they're going to be seen from a distance, they don't have to be super detailed, just resemble them from a distance.
4. Make the music sound legitimate. When you're at the festival in Horizon 4, the music coming from speakers is just the studio recording. I suggest two versions of each song saved in the game. The normal studio version when you're away doing races or cruising around, but have a recorded version of when the performer(s) played a song live when you roll up to the festival. This will make it SO much more immersive.

MUSIC------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Hyperdrift Radio- Due to the game's setting being Japan, we need to get into the mood, style and aesthetics of Japan of course. Hyperdrift Radio is a brand new station that features Eurobeat and Vaporwave music, perfect for drifting and flying past opponents.
2. Please bring back the custom music option from Forza Horizon 3. I know Groove Music has been retired, but I think a Horizon X Spotify collaboration would be really nice. When it comes to 100% completion players like me, the current music gets REALLY old when driving. Hey, a Spotify shirt would be a free unlock if you connected your account?

3.What if each season had it's own music lineup? I know it'd be expensive to buy all that music for use, but it'd be worth it in my opinion.

1. Horizon XS features these songs (among others) (starred* songs are HIGHLY recommended)

Black Pistol Fire - Level*

Cage The Elephant - Broken Boy*

Death From Above 1979 - NVR4EVR*

Dinosaur Pile-Up - 11:11 (Radio Edit)*

Riverboat Gamblers - A Choppy, Yet Sincere Apology

Greenleaf - High Fever*

Kasabian - Fast Fuse

Liily - Toro*

Plauge Vendor - I Only Speak In Friction*

Rise Against - The Violence

Royal Blood - Where Are You Now?

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1. Horizon Pulse features these songs (among others)

Shamir - On The Regular

Two Door Cinema Club - Undercover Martyn

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1. Horizon Block Party features these songs (amon- you get the idea.)

Gang Starr - Now You're Mine

LL Cool J - Rock The Bells

Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You*

Kabuto The Python - Spetsnaz*

Busdriver - Imaginary Places

The Pharcyde - Passin' Me By*

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1. Horizon Bass Arena

Andromedik - Forever* (this should play during the opening race to the festival)

Bloc Party - Flux (12" Instrumental Remix)

Siouxsie & The Banshees - Cities In Dust* (Junkie XL Remix)

Kavinsky - Testarossa (SebAstian Remix)

KNOWER - Time Traveler

Matrix & Futurebound - All I Know*

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Ace - Tokyo Lights*

18 Carat Affair - Desire*

ESPIRITにちは - espirit.wav

ESPIRITにちは - iwillbe.wav (Extended Mix)*

Crystal Castles - Crimewave*

Dark Angel - Right Now

Dave Rogers - Deja Vu

Dreams West - Tribes*

Fastway - Rockin' Hardcore*

FrankJavCee - SimpsonWave1995

GLOOMCVLT - Banned From Living*

Go2 - Looka Bomba

Hotblade - Manifold Love (Eurobeat Mix)

Jean Love - Steel Blade

Leslie Parrish - Killing My Love*

luxury elite - Temptation

luxury elite - Mall Madness

Manuel - GAS GAS GAS* (Extended Mix)

Max Coveri - Running In The 90's*

MF DOOM - Zatar*

Nando - In My Supercar*

The Snake - Freedom Ride (Eurobeat Mix)

(seriously, if any of the above songs get put into the game i'll lose it)

AUCTION HOUSE----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Currently in the game, if someone makes a bid in the final few mins, the auction timer is raised by a minute. This can go on indefinitely provided all the bidders have infinite money. This is fine, but I think it should have a limited amount of additional time given before the timer won't renew.
2. Private auctions. You can tag 1-4 users and have a private auction between only them. However, there is no max buyout, you actually have to make an auction bid, and the start bid is locked at the highest average price. Getting your rides sniped will be a thing of the past. Perfect compromise since the gifting car feature was removed.
3. You can save and monitor auctions for later. If you see a nice car with a low bid but a high buyout with several hours to go, you can come back and bid on it in the last few mins so you don't attract attention and get 70 people bidding on the car.
4. The Auction House is updated automatically and new auctions submitted are live. You don't need to back out and search again to get new auctions showing up.
5. In car histories, the date they were purchased/won is there.
6. You can track your sold cars and see if they're available again.
7. Your AH purchases and sells (that's not a word, is it?) are permanently logged, along with the date, the price, and who bought it. It's all kept in a comprehensive list.

SKILL SCORES-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Ultimate Airs are buffed to 1,000 points
2. BETTER SKILL REGISTRY. I cannot count how many points worth of skill chains i've lost because the game didn't count a wreckage or drift skill at the last second.
3. The skill score multiplier has an actual timer next to it. The fading text isn't enough.
4. Your skill score timer cannot run out mid-air, the timer is paused until you hit the ground. This has been a thing in the games and it infuriates me as it discourages players to not make big jumps.
5. Rewind should be a perk added, this perk would let you rewind "once" during your skill chain and keep it. Rewinding to gain a lost chain wouldn't apply.
6. Foresight should be a perk added, this perk would have traffic show up as tiny dots on the minimap so they're easier to avoid.

MULTIPLAYER & FESTIVAL PLAYLIST----------------------------------------------------------------------

1. You aren't required to win an event for it to count towards your completion. Sure, you won't get the award, but it should count for the playlist regardless. It's annoying having to forcefully win a Trials or Playground Games event just for a car you already have so you can get a Playlist Completion Award.
2. In ranked, cars should be permanently ghosted. Eliminate the opportunity for rammers to ruin the race entirely.
3. Missing a checkpoint should not force a rewind. Missing one basically dooms you to last place in multiplayer. Instead, it should give you a temporary slowdown.
4. To prevent wallriding, only slow the player if they're physically touching the wall. The current system is too sensitive and will penalize you even if you simply love-tap the wall.
5. REMOVE FREEROAM RUSH. PERMANENTLY. IT'S NO FUN AND REQUIRES LUCK, NOT SKILL.
6. I suggest replacing freeroam rush with a Burnout Paradise-style racing type. Basically, you can take literally any route to the finish (asphalt and dirt), but you'll get reset if you drive off the road for longer then 10 seconds. Find your own route and figure out the fastest to win. This will actually take thinking and skill, and doesn't sound like the devs quickly and lazily thought it up.
7. Playground Games has three different gamemodes. You can have a team win with a best 2/3. So why on earth is it a best 3/5 on the game? This is just plain inefficiency, it should have three rounds.
8. 100%ing a season should award 5 super wheelspins. 100% on a Series would be 10 super wheelspins.

WHEELSPINS-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Super Wheelspins will not contain common items.
2. Wheelspins will not contain Autoshow Cars under 600K credits or under Legendary Rarity. To balance this out, getting cars will be rare.

TUNING/UPGRADES--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Tire Compound swapping shouldn't cost so much PI. The fact you can literally skip entire classes just by putting on race tires is ridiculous. Putting race tires on some D class cars will sometimes bump them UP TO A CLASS.
2. For the love of everything automotive, nerf AWD swapping. The fact you instantly get maxed out launch and acceleration as well easier handling basically forces the player to AWD swap all their cars to be competitive. It's stupid, and doesn't feel right. AWD SHOULD add a little bit of launch and acceleration, but swapping to AWD should mainly go to building rally cars.
3. When downloading other Tunes, the thumbnail of the tune will reflect the bodykits and wings/spoilers applied. I absolutely HATE forza aero, and when I can't get a certain PI and head to the tuning marketplace, all the thumbnails are the same despite the car having different kits applied, and it's a literal guess to find one without the ugly kits.
4. Applying race weight reduction will actually remove the other seats and change the interior.

GARAGE-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. DeBerti Designs, Pre-order cars, Barrett-Jackson, and Horizon Edition cars are in their own manufacturer categories.
2. Pre-modifed cars (like HOONIGAN) will have their creation year the time they were modified, not the year the stock model was created.
3. Sorting changes will be saved. If you organize your cars by PI Class, they'll stay that way unless you change it again.
4. You can create custom categories like in Motorsport.
5. New rarity: one-of-a-kind. Not sure what color it should be, but it means in real life, only one of the car exists. This applies to cars under HOONIGAN, Formula Drift, ETC. Also racing cars like the Audi Quattro S1, #199 Subaru WRX and the VW IDR.

FESTIVAL SHOWCASES-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. You can blueprint showcase events. You obviously can't change the route or what you race, but the vehicle you use, the weather, the season, and the song that plays you can change.
2. Drag Car on a straight VS. Skateboarder using a mega ramp would be pretty cool.

GAME PHYSICS-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Please, i'm begging you. Don't change the drift physics at all. Horizon 3's drift physics had such a high learning curve i still haven't mastered it after all this time. Horizon 4's was hard, sure, but it took a reasonable amount of time to master. Drifting physics are creamy-smooth right now, please don't change it.
2. Roadside objects slow you down waaaaay too much. This is an arcade racer, the only object that should actually slow you down when driving through it should be the drystone walls. Also, your cars should be able to break through them at any speed, getting stuck behind some tree or wall because you weren't going fast enough frustrates me.
3. The debris from broken roadside objects should become intangible after a second or so. If they get stuck behind a curb or bump up and you're driving a low car, it will literally keep you from getting up the curb, and sometimes bounce you back. How does that work?

CHARACTER CUSTOMIZATION------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. More character age types. Current playable characters are fine and should return, but please, add some other options other then all the characters looking 24-32. It'd be neat if you could play as some old 48 year old boomer, or a young 19 year old kid. Getting tired of every selectable character being a millennial. More age diversity please! Also one template character should be the original Horizon 1 protagonist, complete with RBF.
2. Legitimate body customization. While the classic default characters should serve as templates, it'd be nice to be able to change hairsyles, hair color, beard/mustaches for the dudes... HOWEVER, these should not be wheelspin prizes and all be available from the start of the game.
3. Drop the dances. Please.
4. But if you're gonna keep em, add the Spongebob Shuffle, Flare, and the Kazotsky Kick.
5. Stop with all the ridiculous cosmetics. I get if you want some goofy headbands and hats, but cut it out with the big-eye googles, crowns, pumpkin masks. dumb chicken costumes included.
6. STAY AWAY FROM HYPEBEAST CLOTHING. THIS ISN'T NEED FOR SPEED.
7. Custom clothing. Like ones you can apply vinyls to.

CAR CUSTOMIZATION------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Using other people's vinyls should NOT lock your design. it SHOULD however give a 3% cut to the original creator of the vinyl. The creator would also be notified that their design is being used.
2. Options to remove front/rear bumpers, as well as the hood one some cars would be sick. Certain upgrades would make previously unavailable body removals usable, such as adding a Twin Turbo swap your Lamborghini would make the rear removable.
3. Window stickers! However, you can't cover the entire windshield/window. You can cover the edges and passenger side of the windshield with as much as you like, but you can't just slap a massive sticker over the entire window/windshield.
4. More bodykits from brands in general.
5. Different Forza Aero options. The only one currently available is hideous on 99% of the cars in the game.
6. Front/rear bumpers as well as doors can be painted individually.
7. De-badging cars is an option.

RACES------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Street Scene should be one of the available race formats for custom routes.
2. Blueprints are deletable.
3. Street Scene should feel more illegal in general. Police sirens should be heard in the distance when doing a street race, and a police chopper flying over the race would be cool. Police will never chase or interact in any other way. This is Forza, not NFS.
4. On higher difficulties, you must stay in-between the checkpoints for them to count. Driving directly over a flag doesn't count, although hitting the inner side does.
5. Option to switch cars at the Race Start menu.
6. When doing festival-based custom routes, Horizon barriers, screens, and bleachers will be present. This will automatically be done by the game if the player uses a straight or corner used in a developer-created route.
7. Option to choose which direction the race starts in with custom checkpoints. It's extremely annoying finding the perfect start to your race only to find out the start is pointed in the opposite direction.

BARN FINDS-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Obviously not all, just suggestions.

1. '98 Toyota Supra RZ
2. '85 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
3. '94 Mazda MX-5 Miata
4. '87 Nissan Skyline R31
5. '67 Nissan Fairlady Z
6. '95 Toyota MR2 GT
7. '84 Honda CRX
8. After unlocking a barn find, the same car is now available in the Autoshow. Autoshow based cars can be deleted, unlike their barn find counterparts.

HORIZON EDITION CARS---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Once again, just suggestions.

1. 1969 Dodge Charger (A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Air Skills Boost)
2. 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR R34(B-700 CLASS UPGRADE)(Speed Skills Boost)
3. 2020 Supra GR(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Drift Skills Boost)
4. 1985 Toyota Trueno(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Drift Skills Boost)
5. 2018 McLaren Senna(X-999 CLASS UPGRADE)(Credits Boost)
6. 1969 GTO Judge(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Burnout Skills Boost)
7. 2011 Koenigsegg Agera(X-999 CLASS UPGRADE)(Air Skills Boost)
8. 2002 Enzo Ferrari(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Speed Skills Boost)
9. 2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport(S2-998 CLASS UPGRADE)(Speed Skills Boost)
10. 2002 BMW M3-GTR(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Near Miss Skills Boost)
11. 2014 Terradyne Gurkha LAPV(B-700 CLASS UPGRADE)(Destruction Skills Boost)
12. 2001 Acura Integra Type-R(B-700 CLASS UPGRADE)(Near Miss Skills Boost)
13. 1997 Honda Civic Type-R(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Skills Boost)
14. 1992 Honda NSX-R(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Drift Skills Boost)
15. 2003 Honda S2000(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Credits Boost)
16. 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Air Skills Boost)
17. 2012 Eagle Speedster(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Speed Skills Boost)
18. 1962 Peel P50(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Skills Boost)
19. 1975 Ford Bronco(B-700 CLASS UPGRADE)(Destruction Skills Boost)
20. 1971 Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Burnout Skills Boost)
21. 2012 Bowler EXR S(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Destruction Skills Boost)
22. 2013 Audi R8 Coupe V10(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Influence Boost)
23. 1985 Ford RS200 Evolution(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Air Skills Boost)
24. 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Credits Boost)
25. 2003 Volkswagen Golf R32(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Skills Boost)
26. 2014 Porsche 918 Spyder(S2-998 CLASS UPGRADE)(Speed Skills Boost)
27. 2005 Ford GT(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Near Miss Skills Boost)
28. 2019 Ford Ranger Raptor(C-600 CLASS UPGRADE)(Destruction Skills Boost)
29. 1971 Meyers Manx(C-600 CLASS UPGRADE)(Air Skills Boost)
30. 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z(A-800 CLASS UPGRADE)(Drift Skills Boost)
31. 2010 Lexus LFA(S1-900 CLASS UPGRADE)(Influence Boost)
32. 1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6Idea: under the hood in forzavista, have the message "take care of this one! -Dak" written on the engine cover in sharpie. Nice little throwback. Only on the Horizon Edition.(B-700 CLASS UPGRADE)(Near Miss Skills Boost)

HOUSES-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Everything you can access in the in-game pause menu can be accessed in your house.
2. Tuning and paining cars will have a little garage area when doing so. The car out on the driveway looks boring.

ELIMINATOR-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Don't. Just don't. It's garbage, and of all the things that have been added to Forza Horizon 4, this is by far the worst. Lay it to rest. It's not fun, and the game's realistic-spin-on-arcade-racing makes this even worse. The map makes the whole experience terrible as well, it wasn't designed for this, and even the fact you have to activate to "fight" a player just shows how you were grasping at straws in the first place. This is coming from someone who was initially excited to try this gamemode out. I understand losing because i screwed up and crashed into a tree, that's fair. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HAVING TO GO 2MPH OVER EVERY LITTLE DIRT BUMP BECAUSE I'LL EITHER SPIN OUT, FLIP, OR GET ROUTED INTO A BUILDING.

DRIVATARS-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. In the options menu, you can have a choice to replace randomly generated Xbox accounts with actual racer names. Some could even be throwbacks, like naming racers Darius Flynt or Dak. Feels kinda soulless to race against people named "WackyRiver3829" and "SadBottle4356"
2. With harder difficulties, stop making the Drivatars more unfair to race against. Make them drive SMARTER. Have them use braking as little as possible, have them fully gun it on straights. The rubberbanding on harder difficulties is absolutely ridiculous, especially with the one drivatar who absolutely SMOKES everyone else. They drive like they're on slot tracks, and it just isn't fun. Giving expert-unbeatable drivatars cars that have impossible engine swaps, unreachable horsepower, ETC. shouldn't be in the game. I want to feel like i'm racing actual people on higher difficulties.
3. Bumping/making extended contact with drivatar's cars will make them try to get away from you. They'll beep if you ram them or tailgate too long, have muffled music playing inside the cars, make them feel like real people.
4. Drivatars will autoghost in freeroam mode, and spawn MUCH less frequently. Horizon 3 has been almost ruined because of the sheer amount of drivatars that spawn, and the ones that ram into you, for some reason.

SEASONS----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. I'm being honest here and i'm just saying I really don't care about the seasons feature. spring through autumn has barely any gameplay difference, and winter is just plain annoying. It's your pride and joy for whatever reason, so I really don't expect for this feature to be retired.
2. I do think you should be able to freeroam in any season you want at any time, but switching seasons would not let you do online events or connect to Horizon Life until you changed it back. Forcefully being stuck in winter for a WEEK straight makes the game no fun to play.
3. I mean... what if seasons worked realistically?

-December 1st to February 28th: Winter

-March 1st to May 31st: Spring

-June 1st to August 31st: Summer

-September 1st to November 30th: Autumn

Combined with the "play privately in any season you want" this would be great. Also, it won't be in-game summer during real-life christmas time like it was last year!

HORIZON STORY----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Stop making some chapters so hard to three-star. Especially in these weird, convoluted ways where you have to take some alternate route that's never referenced in the game at all. Take one of the LaRacer chapters, it's impossible to three star unless at the start, you pull a full 180 and go backwards, THEN you have a chance to thee star it. Have you heard of a thing called foreshadowing? hints? They're pretty big in games these days.
2. Why not have a real racing celeb like Ken Block be the star of a HOONIGAN based Horizon Story? Imagine if Tesla came back to the game and Elon Musk decided to show up at the Horizon Festival to have a Horizon story based around Tesla and other electric cars?

CARS-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is all the cars I personally would like to see featured in the game. Starred* ones will not be available in the Autoshow and will be seasonal rewards.

1. 2016 Apollo Arrow*
2. 2004 Gumpert Apollo
3. 1985 Honda City Turbo II
4. 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
5. 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner
6. 2008 Top Gear P45*
7. 2017 Honda Civic DX
8. 2018 Nissan Sentra
9. 2020 Supra GR
10. 2010 Lexus LFA
11. 2020 Ferrari SF90 Stradale
12. 2020 Chevrolet Corvette C8
13. 2015 Ferrari P80C*
14. 1967 Ferrari Thomassima II
15. 1985 Toyota Trueno
16. 1995 Toyota MR2 GT
17. 1999 Dodge Dakota Sport
18. 2019 Lamborghini Huracan Performante
19. 2020 Aspark Owl*
20. 2020 Ferrari F8 Tributo
21. 2020 McLaren Elva
22. 2020 Aston Martin DBX
23. 2020 Ford Bronco R
24. 2013 Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak
25. 1982 Nissan 240RS
26. 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S
27. 2014 Equus Bass 770
28. 2011 Hyundai IX20
29. 2012 Scion TC
30. 2007 Toyota Camry
31. 1993 Volkswagen Fox
32. 1979 Toyota Tercel
33. 1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee
34. 1977 Lancia Scorpion
35. 2005 TVR Typhon
36. 2002 TVR Tamora*
37. 1971 Ulyanovsk UAZ-469
38. 1955 Alpine A106
39. 1999 Toyota Altezza RS200 Z-Edition
40. 2010 Toyota FJ Cruiser
41. 1985 Lotus Espirit Turbo

CONCLUSION-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, it's finally done. Hope the devs decide to read through this since I put a ton of work into it. Maybe the sheer size of this thing will get their attention. Thanks so much for reading through this (probably skimming, i don't blame you) If any of my music/car/design suggestions make it into the game i'd completely lose it. Hopefully Forza Horizon 5 is a masterpiece, regardless of what's listed here.

Submitted December 21, 2021 at 10:35PM by box-fort2 https://ift.tt/30M8rID